Life After the 12 Steps

You know I used to be a power blogger and now I have to do this weird thing where I think for a while, sometimes a month or 2 before posting something.  Is this some sign of maturity?  A sign of truly embracing personal autonomy?  Or maybe I just don’t have as much to say to random people anymore.  Each week isn’t spent marinating in listening to other peoples random thoughts and musings for hours.  Every week I generally keep my opinions about life, love, booze, politics, TV shows, or the state of the world to myself with the exception of the spouse, selected family members, and my closest friends.  And even then I have been saying a lot more “oh really” or “I don’t know” or “I don’t feel like talking about that.”  Mainly though I just don’t say much at all.  And honestly…it’s awesome!

Read this recently on the International Cultic Studies website:

Insight into this relationship may be gained from a comparison with the sponsorship of a new recruit by an established member of Alcoholics Anonymous, the charismatic-like group founded by Bill W.[45] Alcoholics Anonymous does not promote sexual relations between its members, but its system of sponsors acts to instruct the recruit in the messages and rituals of the group and reinforces dependency upon it. The sponsor, someone who struggles against alcoholism and, with the group’s support, remains sober, instructs the recruit in its practices and beliefs. In return, the sponsor’s own commitment to sobriety and the group is confirmed by the recruit’s repeated narrative of personal degradation while under the influence of alcohol and by the redemption and hope derived from joining the group. Over time, the recruit adopts its message and becomes dependent upon the group which, for its part, is reluctant to let the recruit leave.

Message adoption.  System of sponsors.  Instructs recruit in practices and beliefs.  Repeated narrative of personal degradation.  Redemption.  Hope.  Charismatic-like group.  Becomes dependent. Reluctant to leave.

Well no wonder I feel a bit more quiet these days.  After leaving a nearly 23 year long relationship with 12 step “Recovery” which is nothing more than a modern day cult (or cults) at long last I feel free in every way a person could be.  Some days are still challenging and it feels like my mind and my lifestyle are still deprograming but every single day I feel truly grateful and not just the type of gratitude one has when they’re made to feel guilty by another group member for being “selfish, self centered, and discontent.”

At this point I haven’t decided how in depth I wish to write on this blog or in another format on my time in AA and Al-Anon.  Over half my life is a long time to champion the 12 step cause; and having clear, unspoiled, truly sober understanding of this part of my life has been needed so I don’t come off around it as resentful, sick, or, quite frankly, alcoholic.  Because when people tell the truth about why they left 12 steps or why it didn’t work for them, or why they disagree with it, a slew of pronouncements about the character of the teller befall them, usually behind their backs.  Sometimes there are public pronouncements but only if the AMA has signed off on the same prescribed “medical” theory.


What I can say now with all clear-headedness is that after 23 years in 12 steps I never felt truly comfortable in it.  There was only a brief time of a few months, where I actually once in a while enjoyed a meeting.  It was after I got sick with chronic illness and I became bed bound for a year.  During that year meetings once a week was my only social life for a time.

Other than that meetings were generally something I endured because I thought I might die if I didn’t go to them.  That death would come if I didn’t get a sponsor, become a sponsor, work the 12 steps, and go to LOTS and LOTS of meetings.  Jails, institutions or DEATH.  If I didn’t do “A” I’d get “B”.  Talk about black and white thinking!

Being 18 years old when I first came into the program (upon reflection I realized one day how sinister that sounds…”The Program”) it seemed like a good philosophy to do some certain things so I could basically become a replica of a nice, normal, happy person.  That I could have a good life if I just did X and then shared X with everyone at the place where we often do X.  It was even good to share about X with others outside of meetings because after all everyone wants to be a replica of someone nice, happy, and normal.  Why wouldn’t a teen ascribe to such a philosophy?  Especially if already exposed to the doctrine of Self-Esteem (A.K.A the Pre and Post-Millennial’s Guide to Global Domination via New Age Oneness inspired by Mystery Babylon or the “If You Don’t Agree That All is God and You Are God Then You’ll Be Eliminated” Movement.)

It took learning about the real origins of AA and it’s predecessor The Oxford Group, along with studying AA’s own texts along with the texts of other 12 step groups, that got me questioning.  Sadly most folks have been duped into believing AA started out as a noble Christian fellowship that embraced values of autonomy, spirituality, and willful corporate poverty.  It was on closer inspection- from drug fiend Aldous Huxley’s writing for the Grapevine, to Sister Francis’ Joy Farm that the Wilson’s frequented, to the Swedenborgian apostate influence, to devotee and writer Ernest Kurtz noting “that Bill at times conflated spiritualism with spirituality, sometimes using the terms interchangeably”- that something began to seem fishy.

Having read and reread AA and Al-Anon literature I thought I knew what it really said.  But did I?

Speaking at a dinner given by John D. Rockefeller Jr. to introduce Alcoholics Anonymous to some of his friends, Dr. Harry Emerson Fosdick remarked:

I think that psychologically speaking there is a point of advantage in the approach that is being made in this movement that cannot be duplicated.  I suspect that if it is wisely handled-and it seems to be in wise and prudent hands-there are doors of opportunity ahead of this project that may surpass our capacities to imagine.” p. 574

Mr. Emerson as you may not know was a key player in happily attempting to destroy “fundamentalist Christianity” and Mr. J. Rockefeller (the same man that held that dinner for AA) financially helped Fosdick build a church and distribute 13,000 pamphlets of his sermon “Shall the Fundamentalists Win?”

Of course that’s one tiny example of a “say whaaat?” moment where I wondered just who the influential people were in early AA and what they stood for and how much such philosophies may have made it into the AA Big Book and other texts from various 12 step societies.  After looking into this aspect for a couple years I came to realize many of the allusions made in 12 step literature were strikingly against my own moral and religious convictions.


Then came the day I just finally stopped going.  It wasn’t an actual decision like “starting NOW I’m no longer a member.”  At some point before Christmas last year I just knew I couldn’t volunteer for the holiday phone lines because I could no longer proselytize the 12 step rhetoric to someone who may be vulnerable to what I saw as something potentially unhelpful.  Or at least something I knew I no longer believed in and was possibly dangerous for some if not all people, especially ones who may not even be alcoholic.

Then I looked into the origins of the modern day Alcoholism-as-disease movement including E. M. Jellinek’s (a man who never even graduated from college yet is referred to even now as a doctor) study of alcoholics and his theory adoption by Rockefeller funded research center(s) headed by AA luminaries.

One day I was ready of test AA’s theory about my own supposed disease.   After some thought it occurred to me that if I wanted… I could actually try a drink.  There was no invisible death threat anymore and if I did drink and become what all those years I was told I was (otherwise I wouldn’t have been in such rooms in the 1st place right?) then they were right and that was that.  So a few weeks later I told my spouse I may want to try a drink some day.  Weeks later I was ready and as we left the house for dinner I said “I’d like to try a little bit of beer.”  That night I had 2oz of a sour beer that had ginger and lime.  It was delicious and though I thought I hated the taste of beer, I knew I liked the taste of this.  So we split one more 2oz taster of beer.  And that was that.  No obsession, no drunken debauchery, and almost no fanfare.

Slowly over a period of almost 8 months I’ve worked my way up to having…a beer or glass of wine a few times a week.  Last week I had my 1st margarita ever (delicious) and a few weeks ago I actually celebrated Vodka day (thanks to a client telling me that day was Vodka day) with my 1st vodka tonic (also delicious).  Did I have a 2nd margarita or vodka tonic?  No.  Did I have a follow up beer?  No.  Is it hard to limit myself to one drink?  No.  Have I ever had more than one in a setting? Why yes.  Since March there have been 3 times I’ve had 3 drinks in one setting, always with friends and always over the course of 3-5 hours.  Do I sometimes wish most alcohol drinks had less alcohol in them so I could drink them all night? Yes.  Why?  Because some beers, wines, and mixed drinks are delicious!  But alas I’m the queen of pacing when I drink (I didn’t know this about myself until my wife pointed out I’m usually the one to finish a drink last) so I don’t drink as much as my mouth desires in terms of flavor satisfaction.  Why?  Because I don’t like feeling tipsy.  So no…I’m not an alcoholic.

When I broke the news to my therapist that I left 12 steps and drink regularly he said “I never thought you were an alcoholic in the first place.”  Though apparently he didn’t feel it was his place to “redefine my reality” it would have perhaps saved me some time to know he thought that.  Anyway he saw my leaving 12 steps behind as move in the right direction and a sign that I’m finally…being…as Shakespeare put it “to thine own self be true.”  For me though, being true to myself is secondary.

Being true to God is most important though I cannot guarantee I’m free of sin. However I am free of a set of principles based on hated of fundamentalists (black & white thinking is bad), embracing of spiritualism (The 12×12 was channeled by Bill W.), manipulation (we’ll love you until you love yourself…unless you disagree with us), and faulty science. I’m free of a movement that takes vulnerable people, especially young persons and convinces them they are diseased to the point of death and have no choice but to succumb to the principles previously mentioned.  And finally I’m free of an ever expanding cultural hoax that serves to create dependency on sponsors, recruiters, 12 step literature, and group-think.

Sometimes I wonder if my 23 years of discomfort in “recovery” was a blessing.  In Paul’s letter to the Ephesians (6:12 KJV) he wrote:

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

My restlessness and wrestling with 12 steps I feel now was based on my discomfort of the inherent lies and cult workings of a self-propelled movement that is a type or precursor for a type of universalist spirituality that is ultimately not of God and not good either.  But I take comfort in Paul’s letter to the Romans (8:37-39 KJV) where he said:

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.  For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Our household at long last has moved on and away from any and all things 12 step related.  It’s been one of our greatest blessings.

Here is some food for thought about how cults operate.  Each of the eight points below has a part that reflects 12 step indoctrination at some level, at least in my experience.

Dr. Robert J. Lifton’s Eight Criteria for Thought Reform

  1. Milieu Control.  This involves the control of information and communication both within the environment and, ultimately, within the individual, resulting in a significant degree of isolation from society at large.

  2. Mystical Manipulation.  There is manipulation of experiences that appear spontaneous but in fact were planned and orchestrated by the group or its leaders in order to demonstrate divine authority or spiritual advancement or some special gift or talent that will then allow the leader to reinterpret events, scripture, and experiences as he or she wishes. 
  3. Demand for Purity.  The world is viewed as black and white and the members are constantly exhorted to conform to the ideology of the group and strive for perfection.  The induction of guilt and/or shame is a powerful control device used here. 
  4. Confession.  Sins, as defined by the group, are to be confessed either to a personal monitor or publicly to the group.  There is no confidentiality; members’ “sins,” “attitudes,” and “faults” are discussed and exploited by the leaders. 
  5. Sacred Science.  The group’s doctrine or ideology is considered to be the ultimate Truth, beyond all questioning or dispute.  Truth is not to be found outside the group.  The leader, as the spokesperson for God or for all humanity, is likewise above criticism. 
  6. Loading the Language.  The group interprets or uses words and phrases in new ways so that often the outside world does not understand.  This jargon consists of thought-terminating clichés, which serve to alter members’ thought processes to conform to the group’s way of thinking. 
  7. Doctrine over person.  Member’s personal experiences are subordinated to the sacred science and any contrary experiences must be denied or reinterpreted to fit the ideology of the group. 
  8. Dispensing of existence.  The group has the prerogative to decide who has the right to exist and who does not.  This is usually not literal but means that those in the outside world are not saved, unenlightened, unconscious and they must be converted to the group’s ideology.  If they do not join the group or are critical of the group, then they must be rejected by the  members.  Thus, the outside world loses all credibility.  In conjunction, should any member leave the group, he or she must be rejected also.











We’re Returning the Tee Shirts

A few weeks ago I went to my first big concert in years. After becoming chronically ill, it’s been challenging to participate in a lot of things I loved like concerts, dancing, even going to movies.  We made sure that at the show I’d be able to sit rather than stand, and still see what was going on.  The band we saw was For King & Country and it my birthday gift to my wife.  We had not ever been to a Christian identified concert together and we were excited.

However…lately whether its movies or music or books from Christian identified sources, I have been finding myself needing to increasingly discern them. The question that comes up is “how does the measure up to what the Bible says?”  Also highly important is if I’m hearing something that doesn’t line up God’s Word, what do I do with this particular thing.  Another clue to discerning is this: does it preach another gospel?  Because of all these thoughts in my head I asked my wife if we could pray before the show for protection and discernment.  We did and we came away from the event unsure if we’ll listen to this band further.

On another post I discussed how subtle Satan is. Just look to Genesis 3 to see how the enemy used the tool of misdirection and distraction to get Eve away from God’s glory and blessings.  After much consideration, I am convinced that He is at war with us (and always has been) especially within the realm of Christian entertainment, and I believe the subtlety of His evil will continue to fool the church.  Entertainment isn’t the only place this is and has been going on.  Churches, pastors, improvement books, etc. are subject to the snares of evil.  At the end of the day I have learned what I have to ask, regardless of how godly the person, place, or thing is: does it reflect clearly God’s Word (2 Timothy 3:5).

Please excuse the following digression

Even this question has become tricky due to the myriad of different translations of the Bible. In the recent Bible edition of the Christian catalogue was a parallel Bible that had the KJV, NKJV, NIV, and ESV translations.  The description mentioned that the KJV was “poetic” whilst the NIV was “accurate.”  I’m not sure who decided to utilize these particular adjectives in describing these translations, but I’m not sure I trust their assessments.  For example Rick Warren said of the KJV translation in his 1995 version of The Purpose Driven Life:

Read Scripture from a newer translation. With all the wonderful translations and paraphrases available today, there is no legitimate reason for complicating the Good News with four-hundred-year-old English.  

Clarity is more important than poetry.

Such a statement is confusing to me because my current understanding is that the KJV is that it’s one of the oldest and widely used Bible translations around (older translations include The Great Bible, Geneva Bible, Coverdale Bible, Wycliffe’s Bible, etc) and people have been able to understand it just fine. Are we to assume because we have to look up a word in the dictionary from time to time that we should go ahead and read translations like this from Proverbs 7:

…Walking the streets, loitering in the mall, hanging out at every corner in town. 

She runs a halfway house to hell… 

Or does a translation like this work just fine?

Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner. 

Her house is the way to hell…

It seems to me that the latter translation is pretty clear but I admit I’m not an expert in biblical languages. That being said I get concerned when a translation adds in words or phrases that veer from the heart of the closest thing we know to be original.  I’m not sure adding in a reference to the mall or a halfway house is necessary or clear.  Maybe I’m getting old but I thought people were not to add or take away from the Word of God (Rev. 22:18-19, Deut. 4:2 & 12:32).  One could argue that God told Eugene Peterson, author of the Message Bible to write the words “mall” and “halfway House” but I think I’ll just stick to my KJV thank you very much.

Back to the actual point of this post 

We started off the night enjoying the show. As you can see from above the concert lighting was fun.  The singers/brothers Joel and Luke Smallbone performed well and we enjoyed the part from their show where they band actually got in the audience.

Before the intermission of their Priceless show we were entreated by Joel to donate to a children’s Christian charity. During this intermission I went onto the GuideStar and Charity Navigator websites to see how their sponsored organization measured up.  Though overall the organization got high marks, there are other Christian themed children’s charities that do a bit better and the best one rated has a CEO whose income is half of what FK&C’s charity CEO makes.

Later in the show we got to hear about how priceless women are. Of course it is the Priceless tour so I expected a tie in to the upcoming Priceless film coming out later this year.  That being said I was surprised just how long the speech was.  Though we women are priceless, I have noticed this sort of self-helpy trend happening a lot more in Christian music lately were the singers croon about how awesome we all are.  Low self-esteem is certainly not a way to glorify our Lord, but neither is an incessant focus on the self regardless of our personal assessment.

There were even these bracelets for sale at the show that read “Priceless.” Both I & my wife almost got one for me in the middle of the speech.  I admit it…I was swayed!  But in the end both of us grew tired of the “you go girl” message when after all, the point of it was to sell bracelets and get folks to see their movie in November.

Those parts of their show is not what ultimately concerned us. It was their song dedication near the end of the show.  In fact when he said “I’d like to dedicate this song to the Celebrate Recovery movement” I wasn’t sure I heard right.  I looked at my wife for confirmation and yup…the song Fix My Eyes was indeed dedicated to Rick Warren’s “christianized” self-help unit of his organization.  The dedication was subtle and without reference so there was no way to see it coming.  Through the last two songs that played I physically felt my heart sink.

Some context  

I intend to write about my time in and now happily out of 12 step recovery but for now I’ll just say I believe that ultimately AA was conceived in something most people don’t understand, and that I want no part of it, or 12 step offshoots. For 22 years in both AA & Al-anon I tried to adhere to the principles, doctrines, and dogma of such programs.  I tried to be “good” and do what was in the literature because I was told their way was ultimately the only way to be a serene and useful person.  I was told I would die, kill others, or be a kind of social outlaw if I didn’t adhere to their concepts.

God protected me through those years. His grace saved me from further involvement in 12 steps.  What I have come to understand, after studying AA’s origin’s and 12 step ties to other organizations, is that the world of recovery is one of harm due to deception, false teaching,  brainwashing, and occult foundations.  At times I still very much feel like I’m de-programming.  In my opinion I feel AA and its subsequent 12 step programs are malicious cults that hide behind the guise of self-improvement and resolving addictions with bad science and even worse intentions.  I won’t have a thing to do with any group or ideology that espouses the 12 steps or association thereof (Jeremiah 23:32).


Ironically my wife and I just happened to be reading Warren B. Smith’s Deceived on Purpose, a book that discusses Rick Warren and his Purpose Driven church.  We had only read about 40 pages but had already deduced from other books we’ve read concerning church apostasy that the origins of this church may not be as it appears.  I had only vaguely known about Celebrate Recovery because in the past I occasionally heard people reference it in meetings.  When I got home from the show I did a key word search on the band we just saw and Celebrate Recovery.  There is a webpage on the band site giving people a free song download in regard to Warren’s alternate recovery program.  For King & Country has also played at Saddleback and is definitely tied into Warren’s movement.

So What  

For the next few days after the show we researched all we could on Rick Warren whilst finishing Smith’s book. We then ordered and began reading Smith’s next book on the topic A Wonderful Deception.  We had no idea when we were at that concert how concerning Mr. Warren’s church and P.E.A.C.E. plan are.  We didn’t know Warren and his associates are key players in the emerging church movement, and we didn’t know how deeply tied to new ageism/new spirituality he is.  It is my current assessment that there is something deeply disturbing, willfully apostate, and evil going on with all things associated with anything Purpose Driven and its related entities.  Keep in mind I’m not here to question Warren’s character or say he is or is not something.  Simply stated, I’m saying after further research, I believe something is very wrong with what he’s created and am concerned for those who take seriously anything that his church espouses.

We purchased 2 tee shirts at the FK&C show and we’re sending them back. We considered sending the band a letter and some accompanying information but we’re not sure our words would get into the right hands.  We’re also not sure if the band is so innocent of Warren’s ideology anyway so we’d like to simply remove the shirts from our home and move on (Jeremiah 50:8).

After this experience I find myself when listening to Christian music wondering who and what the bands are associated with. Trip Lee for example is a rapper we have liked.  But his latest video Manolo is, though creative, basically an advertisement for the idea that heaven can be reached via computer.  Like so many churches and so called Christian books, I find myself needing to be much more discerning with music and scrutinize what I’m hearing and what associations bands may have.

It would be easy to label one paranoid or overly suspicious these days.  Cass Sunstein, Obama’s former advisor and Administrator of Information & Regulatory Affairs under his administration would certainly consider anyone who connects the dots a bit too much to be worthy of the label terrorist.  It would be even easier to say “hey if it makes you feel good then it’s OK.”  But I’ve learned from sharing about my feelings and experiences for over 2 decades that one can still be fooled and unaware of deception, no matter how “uplifting” the words may appear.

This post is not about convincing you to hate anyone or stop listening to FK&C or any other band or person.  The point is that as I’m learning more about how subtle the enemy is, I’m also learning more about freedom.  Everyday I get to choose what I surround myself with.  For example I no longer watch/listen to the news or secular music anymore because of the lies and immorality.  This is my choice and a freedom the Lord gives me.  I get to separate myself from false teachings and the result every time is not one of “missing out” but of having Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior (Ephesians 3:12).

Look for Yourself

After looking into not only what Mr. Warren preaches, who he’s allied with, and what his mission/movement is actually doing to people here and in Africa, I have to say I believe this man is not to be trusted for matters of faith.  That being said it would be easier for you the reader to have me spell out everything apostate about Rick Warren’s church and P.E.A.C.E plan but over the last few years we’ve found researching for ourselves to be a great way to learn.  It’s always good to look at both sides of something, scrutinize, and then decide.  It’s also been our habit to see what the people who we question have to say for themselves.  Finally as a Bible believing Christian I ask “does this hold up to Scripture?”  I’ll leave you with the following words and pray for continued discernment for us all.

“We have a kingdom that nothing can destroy… it’s indestructible, it’s unshakable, going to last forever, it’s going to cover the planet.” -Rick Warren

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal.  -Matthew 19-20

And you can go argue about prophecy all you want but Jesus Christ is not going to conclude history until everybody he’s wanted to hear the world has had a chance to hear the word. -Rick Warren

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. -Mark 13:32

Everything great done in this world is done by passionate people. -Rick Warren

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. -John 5:24

“In 1939, in a stadium much like this, in Munich Germany, they packed it out with young men and women in brown shirts, for a fanatical man standing behind a podium named Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil.

And in that stadium, those in brown shirts formed with their bodies a sign that said, in the whole stadium, “Hitler, we are yours.”

 “…I think ‘what would happen if American Christians, if world Christians, if just the Christians in this stadium, followers of Christ, would say ‘Jesus, we are yours’ ?

“I’m looking at a stadium full of people who are saying ‘whatever it takes’.” -Rick Warren

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned into fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

When the disciples wanted to talk about prophecy, Jesus quickly switched the conversation to evangelism. He wanted them to concentrate on their mission in the world. He said in essence, “The details of my return are none of your business. What is your business is the mission I’ve given you. Focus on that! . . .”

If you want Jesus to come back sooner, focus on fulfilling your mission, not figuring out prophecy. -Rick Warren

Here is the part that is none of our business

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive youFor many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.   For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.  Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sakeAnd then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one anotherAnd many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive manyAnd because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:).

Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.  And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!  But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.  Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it notFor there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Behold, I have told you before.  Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it notFor as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.  For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.  Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.  And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.  –Matthew Chapter 24

(The underlined is my emphasis in relation to Warren’s teachings.)